Discussion:
[LAU] A Resonance Of Clouds [music from the Rack]
Dave Phillips
2018-07-29 10:54:52 UTC
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Greetings,



An ambience, not a drone. Musique ameublement with harmonic variety,
from a performance of a self-generating patch made in VCV Rack with a
variety of its modules. Recorded with ecasound and edited with mhwaveedit.

Enjoy, and comments are welcome.

Best,

dp
Jeanette C.
2018-07-29 16:06:15 UTC
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Jul 29 2018, Dave Phillips has written:
...
Post by Dave Phillips
http://youtu.be/Q1H-i4j4QAs
...
Hi Dave,
beautiful sounds and a nice atmosphere, it's the first time I've heard
VCV rack in a full performance. thanks for sharing this pleasant
experience.

Did you only use the free modules, shipping with the software, or did
you get extensions?

Best wishes,

Jeanette

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Dave Phillips
2018-07-29 16:38:15 UTC
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Post by Jeanette C.
beautiful sounds and a nice atmosphere, it's the first time I've heard
VCV rack in a full performance. thanks for sharing this pleasant
experience.
Hey Jeanette, thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

The recording is only an excerpt. The patch is self-generating and can
conjure up its output for hours.
Post by Jeanette C.
Did you only use the free modules, shipping with the software, or did
you get extensions?
The original patch, the one heard in the recording, used free modules
except for the Vult Freak manifold filter which is a for-sale module.
I've since revised the patch to use only free modules.
Post by Jeanette C.
Best wishes,
Jeanette
As always, my friend, the same to you.

dp
Hank Stanglow
2018-07-29 16:47:34 UTC
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Post by Dave Phillips
http://youtu.be/Q1H-i4j4QAs
An ambience, not a drone. Musique ameublement with harmonic variety,
from a performance of a self-generating patch made in VCV Rack with a
variety of its modules. Recorded with ecasound and edited with
mhwaveedit.
Cool, I was not aware of VCV Rack until this video. I'll have to check
it out. Nice sounds.
Will Godfrey
2018-07-29 18:24:16 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 06:54:52 -0400
Post by Dave Phillips
Greetings,
http://youtu.be/Q1H-i4j4QAs
An ambience, not a drone. Musique ameublement with harmonic variety,
from a performance of a self-generating patch made in VCV Rack with a
variety of its modules. Recorded with ecasound and edited with mhwaveedit.
Enjoy, and comments are welcome.
Best,
dp
I often have difficulty getting into your work these days Dave, but on this
occasion I very much enjoyed it. Quite astonishing that it is self-generating.
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Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 11:42:13 UTC
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Hi Will !

As always, thank you for taking the time to review my tracks.
Post by Will Godfrey
I often have difficulty getting into your work these days Dave, but on this
occasion I very much enjoyed it. Quite astonishing that it is self-generating.
Self-generating patches are kind of a thing with modular folk. Such
patches can be quite complex, much more than mere monotonous drones.

Another post in this thread implied that there's a chance element to
this patch. Indeed there is, but the patch itself is the result of many
hours learning and testing module capabilities. IOW, a lot of listening
and experimenting went into its creation before I was satisfied with it.

Learning to use VCV Rack has involved me in an odd combination of
studies. Composition with a modular is decidedly different than working
with a DAW, and the lack of presets means that all synth programming is
pretty much from the ground up. [NB: Presets capabilities have been
added to module design as of Rack-v1-dev.] I've had to reorganize my
thinking in order to use effectively things like shift registers and
sequential switches, not to mention having to get my mind around the
implications and capabilities of the whole CV design. Some former
training - in Csound especially - comes in handy, while other habits -
think MIDI - aren't really very helpful. It's all been a lot of fun so
far, and I believe I'm finally making some progress towards my
short-term goal of basic patch mastery. :)

Best regards,

dp
Louigi Verona
2018-07-30 13:26:01 UTC
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Hey Dave!

Really enjoyed the patch, there is a kind of flow that just makes you want
to keep on listening. This is also the first time I have heard about VCV
Rack, and I will definitely explore it.



Louigi.
Paul Davis
2018-07-30 13:52:53 UTC
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Post by Louigi Verona
Hey Dave!
Really enjoyed the patch, there is a kind of flow that just makes you want
to keep on listening. This is also the first time I have heard about VCV
Rack, and I will definitely explore it.
while we're talking about generative modular patches, i consider this one
to be insanely gorgeous. it was made with a hardware modular, so no linux
audio in sight, although Benn is quite into linux himself:



if i ever came up with anything this lovely with VCVRack or any other
technology, I could die happy.
jonetsu
2018-07-30 14:11:26 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 09:52:53 -0400
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Louigi Verona
Post by Louigi Verona
Hey Dave!
Really enjoyed the patch, there is a kind of flow that just makes
you want to keep on listening. This is also the first time I have
heard about VCV Rack, and I will definitely explore it.
while we're talking about generative modular patches, i consider this
one to be insanely gorgeous. it was made with a hardware modular, so
http://youtu.be/kCDCtRE-bc4
Indeed, this is very nice. What's nice are also the silences, the
pauses and the way the sounds brushes against them. There's also a
clear 3D audio sense in the piece, a depth and spatial placement,
front/back, left/right. up/down with the highs.

But then there are also chords being played. It's not totally machine
driven. Which is OK. Have nothing against humans.
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 14:17:33 UTC
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Post by Paul Davis
while we're talking about generative modular patches, i consider this
one to be insanely gorgeous. it was made with a hardware modular, so
http://youtu.be/kCDCtRE-bc4
if i ever came up with anything this lovely with VCVRack or any other
technology, I could die happy.
I can do without his improv, but that patch is generating some beautiful
sound. In my newbie opinion something like that is do-able on the Rack.
Probably be a big patch. :)

Best,

dp
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 14:03:06 UTC
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Greetings !
Post by Louigi Verona
Hey Dave!
Really enjoyed the patch, there is a kind of flow that just makes you
want to keep on listening. This is also the first time I have heard
about VCV Rack, and I will definitely explore it.
Thanks, Louigi, I'm glad you listened to it. I can't wait to hear what
you'll do with the Rack ! :)

Btw, fellow Racketeer Ben de Groot analyzed the patch in his daily
series of videos about VCV Rack:



Best regards,

dp
jonetsu
2018-07-29 19:52:54 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 06:54:52 -0400
Post by Dave Phillips
An ambience, not a drone. Musique ameublement with harmonic variety,
from a performance of a self-generating patch made in VCV Rack with a
variety of its modules. Recorded with ecasound and edited with
mhwaveedit.
So then, a VCV rack could be packaged into a small portable device with
people buying/getting 'dynamic' drones that never sounds the same, for
relaxation purposes. The device would have a very simple interface
with perhaps 2 or 3 macro controls. And embedded into this some
specific relaxing waves for the brain, for good measure.

People would get addicted to this, like an ever captivating, relaxing
state. Dream-like in a way. Like the videos that people could not
stop watching in Wim Wenders' "Until the End of the World".

Cheers.
Paul Davis
2018-07-29 20:20:22 UTC
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Post by jonetsu
So then, a VCV rack could be packaged into a small portable device with
people buying/getting 'dynamic' drones that never sounds the same, for
relaxation purposes.
you could do the same with Pure Data or CSound or SuperCollider, without
the requirement for a GUI.

VCVRack is awesome, but for the sort of context you're describing it seems
like the wrong tool.
jonetsu
2018-07-29 20:29:44 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:20:22 -0400
Post by Paul Davis
you could do the same with Pure Data or CSound or SuperCollider,
without the requirement for a GUI.
VCVRack is awesome, but for the sort of context you're describing it
seems like the wrong tool.
Not so sure. The very first important aspect would be the quality
of the drones it can generate, how it can vary dynamically in a almost
random manner while still be relaxing. The richness of the sound
elements involved is also very important. While full of technology, it
would not give an upfront impression of being a machine. It would also
not be too complex, always flowing.

So far I do not have the impression that the three aforementioned can
have the same quality of flowing rich and varied output as what we
here from Dave's setup. What I heard is more on the dry side of things.
Paul Davis
2018-07-29 21:37:00 UTC
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Post by jonetsu
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:20:22 -0400
Post by Paul Davis
you could do the same with Pure Data or CSound or SuperCollider,
without the requirement for a GUI.
VCVRack is awesome, but for the sort of context you're describing it
seems like the wrong tool.
Not so sure. The very first important aspect would be the quality
of the drones it can generate, how it can vary dynamically in a almost
random manner while still be relaxing.
I would be very very very very skeptical of claims that there is anything
you can do in VCVRack that cannot be done in any of the three tools I
mentioned.

CSound has a nearly 40 year history of "module development", and while
CSound opcodes are not at the same semantic level as the modules in
VCVRack, the former are the building blocks of the latter.

SuperCollider is an insanely rich synthesis environment, which fails to get
anywhere near the respect or interest that it deserves. The "live coding"
buzz has given it a bit more room, but seriously, SC is one of the richest
environments for sound generation ever created.

and Pure Data? what can I say?

What you're admiring, really, is not "the drones it can generate" but the
complex modulation of tones. That's mostly a function of
clever/lucky/responsive patching, which is the one thing that a
visually-patch-cord-based system like VCVRack wins with over the
afore-mentioned tools. It encourages "playing" in a way that the previous
three tend not to (even though PureData is actually a visual patching
language). This increases the chances of a sensitive user
discovering/creating/encountering aesthetically pleasant results that are
"novel". Put differently: people just don't tend to use CSound, SC or PD in
the same way that they use a visually patched modular, even though there's
nothing about how they work that prevents more or less identical patches
from being developed within them.
jonetsu
2018-07-29 22:05:49 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 17:37:00 -0400
Post by Paul Davis
What you're admiring, really, is not "the drones it can generate" but
the complex modulation of tones. That's mostly a function of
clever/lucky/responsive patching, which is the one thing that a
visually-patch-cord-based system like VCVRack wins with over the
afore-mentioned tools. It encourages "playing" in a way that the
previous three tend not to (even though PureData is actually a visual
patching language). This increases the chances of a sensitive user
discovering/creating/encountering aesthetically pleasant results that
are "novel". Put differently: people just don't tend to use CSound,
SC or PD in the same way that they use a visually patched modular,
even though there's nothing about how they work that prevents more or
less identical patches from being developed within them.
Then this is a huge difference, and it shows in the output. I've never
heard anything like that from PD, SC or Csound even if they can do it
all and perhaps lots more. Haven't heard the same richness of tones
(modulation removed) as with the VCV rack modules. And then the
modulation enriches the basic 'warmth' of the tones. This said, I'm
not a fan of PD, SC and Csound that is to say, I will not spend hours
looking for tunes/pieces/examples made with those. If you have any,
please post.

A Pure Data drone:



Super Collider example:



OTOH, a quick youtube search with 'VCV rack' will return a fair amount
of similar sounding sets, or at least in the same vein, as Dave's:







Of course, it's also possible to make unnerving music with a VCV rack,
although if it's only the interface that makes such a difference, then
it is extremely important regarding the quality of the output and as
such, it cannot be undistinguished from the instrument itself. it
makes one with it to create the output.

And it puts the project out of the academic world and implants it firmly
in the practical world.
Ralf Mardorf
2018-07-29 22:51:22 UTC
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Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/fYngev6RB_U
I fight against a tinnitus by a cortisone treatment to get rid of such
noise. Are there people out there who enjoy listening to this kind of
sound? This is the disgusting kind of sound used for boring
documentations, done by young people, who only just finished film
academy and started working for television.
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/xiLdYLklS0U
This is nice music :), however it could be done with non-modular synth,
too. Nowadays we get emulations of good vintage synth, that are very
close to the original synth, but they usually provide additional
features the original synth do not have, such as joystick alike
touchscreen widgets to fade from one sound into another or to access
resonance as well as cutoff by a finger move. Sure, non-modular synths
are limited, but if one non-modular synth shouldn't provide the desired
matrix, another for sure does.

IMO it's much too time consuming to use very complex modular synth
emulations. A real modular synth might be something lese, since haptic
is involved, since seeing real cables and sockets in 3D is less
confusing than a graphic.
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/Q1H-i4j4QAs
Well done :).
jonetsu
2018-07-29 23:08:58 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 00:51:22 +0200
Post by Ralf Mardorf
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/fYngev6RB_U
I fight against a tinnitus by a cortisone treatment to get rid of such
noise. Are there people out there who enjoy listening to this kind of
sound? This is the disgusting kind of sound used for boring
documentations, done by young people, who only just finished film
academy and started working for television.
It wouldn't be surprising that it's also used by dictatorial regimes
and the CIA, showing commonalities in application.
Post by Ralf Mardorf
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/xiLdYLklS0U
This is nice music :), however it could be done with non-modular
synth, too.
Maybe the arrangement of sounds and modulations in this piece
might have been facilitated by all of them happening at the same time
using a unified interface.

A bit perhaps like having 5 non-modular synths with a set of
modulation-capable macros addressing several parameters on each.

One thing with non-modular synths is that they would offer a much, much
wider range of sounds.

So the idea then would be to provide a unified modulation interface that
can work with several non-modular synths while these synths themselves
would be driven by a sequencer that also can be finely modulated.
Hank Stanglow
2018-07-29 23:31:53 UTC
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Post by Ralf Mardorf
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/fYngev6RB_U
I fight against a tinnitus by a cortisone treatment to get rid of such
noise. Are there people out there who enjoy listening to this kind of
sound? This is the disgusting kind of sound used for boring
documentations, done by young people, who only just finished film
academy and started working for television.
Oh good god, that is totally unlistenable. I barely got through three
seconds of it.
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 02:57:37 UTC
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Greets,
Post by Hank Stanglow
Post by Ralf Mardorf
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/fYngev6RB_U
I fight against a tinnitus by a cortisone treatment to get rid of such
noise. Are there people out there who enjoy listening to this kind of
sound? This is the disgusting kind of sound used for boring
documentations, done by young people, who only just finished film
academy and started working for television.
Oh good god, that is totally unlistenable. I barely got through three
seconds of it.
I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do
with my track. If you did listen to my track I do hope you made it past
three seconds. :)

Best,

dp
Francesco Ariis
2018-07-30 07:57:31 UTC
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I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do with
my track. If you did listen to my track I do hope you made it past three
seconds. :)
Not the first time a feedback thread gets derailed by a tangent
talk.
If people feel so much the need go OT, they might as well be polite
and open a new discussion with a new title.
David Kastrup
2018-07-30 08:10:25 UTC
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Post by Francesco Ariis
I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do with
my track. If you did listen to my track I do hope you made it past three
seconds. :)
Not the first time a feedback thread gets derailed by a tangent
talk.
If people feel so much the need go OT, they might as well be polite
and open a new discussion with a new title.
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David Kastrup
2018-07-30 08:13:22 UTC
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Post by Francesco Ariis
I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do with
my track. If you did listen to my track I do hope you made it past three
seconds. :)
Not the first time a feedback thread gets derailed by a tangent
talk.
If people feel so much the need go OT, they might as well be polite
and open a new discussion with a new title.
Pot -- kettle -- black.

Here is how to change a subject line. BTW, in Emacs Gnus this is

C-c C-f S

and not C-c C-s (which sends the mail as I just was reminded of. In
case I wasn't fast enough for stopping it, sorry for that).
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jonetsu
2018-07-30 12:37:46 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:57:37 -0400
Post by Dave Phillips
Greets,
Post by Hank Stanglow
Post by Ralf Mardorf
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/fYngev6RB_U
I fight against a tinnitus by a cortisone treatment to get rid of
such noise. Are there people out there who enjoy listening to this
kind of sound? This is the disgusting kind of sound used for boring
documentations, done by young people, who only just finished film
academy and started working for television.
Oh good god, that is totally unlistenable. I barely got through
three seconds of it.
I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do
with my track.
Really ? Feeling bad because someone would write something like this
about some music you made ? Really ? Isn't that very far away for all
notions of nei gong ? Of inner peace.

If someone would write that about music I made my reaction would be to
smile. Even if the guy is a multi-millionaire boss of a record
company or something like that. Such a comment would be like rain on a
duck's back. Makes one smile and that's it. Even replying with a funny
comment if it happens.

Anyways, after my initial comment on a small portable device that would
have a VCV Rack embedded so that people can heard dynamically evolving
relaxing music such as yours, Paul replied that Pure Data, Csound and
Super Collider can do the same, so why use a VCV Rack ? Afterwards Paul
replied with good reason that the interface of a VCV Rack makes it very
different. And so on.

That you use a VCV Rack I think makes it legitimate to spontaneously
comment on the device being used which is, after all, fairly new. At
least fairly new to the "public". If I would be using a Gizmo to
present a new piece of music I would not make it a case that people
start commenting on the nature of the Gizmo. Not that you did, mind
you. But others are mentioning that a different thread should have
been created. I'm quite unsure about this. First of all traffic is
minimal in this mailing list. Certainly not the affluence of years ago.
Secondly there's something anti-spontaneous about simply not replying
but instead creating a new thread so that people would not get
"confused".

Cheers.
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 13:02:33 UTC
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Greetings,
Post by jonetsu
Post by Dave Phillips
Post by Hank Stanglow
Oh good god, that is totally unlistenable. I barely got through
three seconds of it.
I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do
with my track.
Really ? Feeling bad because someone would write something like this
about some music you made ? Really ?
No, not really. I got over it in about a picosecond.

dp
David Kastrup
2018-07-30 13:07:52 UTC
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Post by jonetsu
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:57:37 -0400
Post by Dave Phillips
Greets,
Post by Hank Stanglow
Post by Ralf Mardorf
Post by jonetsu
http://youtu.be/fYngev6RB_U
I fight against a tinnitus by a cortisone treatment to get rid of
such noise. Are there people out there who enjoy listening to this
kind of sound? This is the disgusting kind of sound used for boring
documentations, done by young people, who only just finished film
academy and started working for television.
Oh good god, that is totally unlistenable. I barely got through
three seconds of it.
I felt bad until I saw that the URL you referred to had nothing to do
with my track.
Really ? Feeling bad because someone would write something like this
about some music you made ? Really ? Isn't that very far away for all
notions of nei gong ? Of inner peace.
Why announce it if you didn't care how it would affect others?
Particularly on a list of insiders?

The last major completed work of J. S. Bach, the "Great Catholic Mass in
B minor" is a bit of a puzzler in that regard. Utterly unperformable
(wrong church for the composer, wrong rite for the century even if you
went to the right church, too large for private performances and too
sacred for concert halls) and several composers of renown likely held a
cherished copy. Dissemination too wide to be a mere accident (other
works like the Musical Offering or the Brandenburg concerti almost
disappeared in spite of being more in line with the times), purpose
questionable.

I suspect that the initial distribution might have been via a composers'
mailing list. Or what has passed for it in the 18th century.

I doubt it would not have affected him if someone replied "Johann
Sebastian, that is totally unlistenable. I barely got through three
seconds of it." on the list (even though what happens with the tonality
in the "Confiteor" when its ars antiqua fugue runs into the "Et expecto"
like a locomotive engine into zero gravity is somewhat out of the
ordinary). But there were likely fewer list members anyway. And he did
not survive long enough for a flamewar in that medium either.
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David Kastrup
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 02:53:21 UTC
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Post by jonetsu
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:20:22 -0400
Post by Paul Davis
you could do the same with Pure Data or CSound or SuperCollider,
without the requirement for a GUI.
...
So far I do not have the impression that the three aforementioned can
have the same quality of flowing rich and varied output as what we
here from Dave's setup. What I heard is more on the dry side of things.
There's this:

https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/vosim-dream-sequence-ii

It's a shame Soundcloud discontinued their Groups feature. The Csound
group had quite a collection of tracks.

Best,

dp
Tim Goetze
2018-07-30 08:48:46 UTC
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[Dave Phillips]
Post by Dave Phillips
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/vosim-dream-sequence-ii
i have to admit that musically, i find this piece much more
interesting than the thread-starting piece (which in itself is totally
agreeable in the same way that a factual statement about the blueness
of the sky today would be).
Dave Phillips
2018-07-30 09:17:36 UTC
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Hi Tim !
Post by Tim Goetze
[Dave Phillips]
Post by Dave Phillips
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/vosim-dream-sequence-ii
i have to admit that musically, i find this piece much more
interesting than the thread-starting piece
It's far more a constructed piece, so its dramatic intention and
internal logic is considerably deeper. The thread-starter is more
process than piece.
Post by Tim Goetze
(which in itself is totally
agreeable in the same way that a factual statement about the blueness
of the sky today would be).
In my least generous moments I think of it in the same sense as
Stravinsky's remarks about Boulez's Pli Selon Pli: "Pretty monotonous
and monotonously pretty".

Thanks for lending your ears and commentary, Tim. Always appreciated. :)

Best regards,

dp
jonetsu
2018-07-30 12:52:10 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:53:21 -0400
Post by Dave Phillips
Post by jonetsu
So far I do not have the impression that the three aforementioned
can have the same quality of flowing rich and varied output as what
we here from Dave's setup. What I heard is more on the dry side of
things.
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/vosim-dream-sequence-ii
This is quite different. It is dark and unsettling. Many elements in
it makes it sombre and not enjoyable on the same level.

2:03 buzzing sound introduced
2:23 unsettling harmonies
3:11 - 3:18 dark moods

As such that piece is not richly flowing and varied as the piece at the
start of the thread which is largely bright, with an array of colourful
elements weaved in and out.

Taking the mood aside I would still say that for comparison sake, the
Csound piece is effectively more on the dry side of things. As if
there was not an easy access to trigger up a variety of different
sound sources. But then, it might just be the piece.

Cheers.
Brent Busby
2018-07-30 14:18:58 UTC
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Post by jonetsu
Post by Dave Phillips
https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/vosim-dream-sequence-ii
This is quite different. It is dark and unsettling. Many elements in
it makes it sombre and not enjoyable on the same level.
2:03 buzzing sound introduced
2:23 unsettling harmonies
3:11 - 3:18 dark moods
[...]

Ok that does it, I've got to hear this...<goes straight to SoundCloud>...
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David Kastrup
2018-07-29 20:38:01 UTC
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Post by Paul Davis
Post by jonetsu
So then, a VCV rack could be packaged into a small portable device with
people buying/getting 'dynamic' drones that never sounds the same, for
relaxation purposes.
you could do the same with Pure Data or CSound or SuperCollider, without
the requirement for a GUI.
VCVRack is awesome, but for the sort of context you're describing it seems
like the wrong tool.
Man, this really sounds like the "modern man is defined by placing a
machine between himself and his purpose" phenomenon.
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David Kastrup
jonetsu
2018-07-29 20:44:46 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 22:38:01 +0200
Post by David Kastrup
Man, this really sounds like the "modern man is defined by placing a
machine between himself and his purpose" phenomenon.
It's a metaphor. Man is an obstacle himself between his soul and his
purpose in life.
jonetsu
2018-07-29 21:05:03 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:44:46 -0400
Post by jonetsu
It's a metaphor. Man is an obstacle himself between his soul and his
purpose in life.
And in the meanwhile, until all this is sorted out, we can listen to
some relaxing music that seems dynamically alive.
bernard
2018-07-29 21:40:39 UTC
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VCVRack seems to have its own sound signature. Technically, sure one can
do the same with other tools, but maybe it's something in the workflow.
Post by jonetsu
So then, a VCV rack could be packaged into a small portable device with
people buying/getting 'dynamic' drones that never sounds the same, for
relaxation purposes.
you could do the same with Pure Data or CSound or SuperCollider,
without the requirement for a GUI.
VCVRack is awesome, but for the sort of context you're describing it
seems like the wrong tool.
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Lorenzo Sutton
2018-07-30 15:47:00 UTC
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Hi Dave,
Post by Dave Phillips
Greetings,
http://youtu.be/Q1H-i4j4QAs
An ambience, not a drone. Musique ameublement with harmonic variety,
from a performance of a self-generating patch made in VCV Rack with a
variety of its modules. Recorded with ecasound and edited with mhwaveedit.
Enjoy, and comments are welcome.
Very interesting (algorithmic) piece, thanks for sharing and for
demonstrating VCV.

Ciao,
Lorenzo
Dave Phillips
2018-07-31 10:40:32 UTC
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Greetings,

Many thanks for the many responses my little work generated. ;)

VCV Rack is a splendid project, I'm happy to have it in the compleat
Linux audio armory.

Best regards to all,

dp
Post by Dave Phillips
Greetings,
http://youtu.be/Q1H-i4j4QAs
An ambience, not a drone. Musique ameublement with harmonic variety,
from a performance of a self-generating patch made in VCV Rack with a
variety of its modules. Recorded with ecasound and edited with
mhwaveedit.
Enjoy, and comments are welcome.
Best,
dp
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