Discussion:
[LAU] Generating click tracks
Ede Wolf
2014-11-18 20:12:29 UTC
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Hi,

I am wondering, wether there is a way to create click tracks. Audacity
is quite limited, as it only creates quarter note clicks, while the
upper tempo setting is limited, so f.e. you cannot create 16th for
120BPM by means of scaling up the BPM.

Also, there are no triple notes, swing eighth or syncopated options
available, though I am afraid, those will be rather seldom, if availble
at all.

Are there any alternatives, that are at least a little more flexible
than audacity?

I am not talking about recording a plugin, like a softsynth, which is
liable to the internal (midi) clock oscillation, but generating an audio
track with really accurate clicks
Lorenzo Sutton
2014-11-18 20:16:53 UTC
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Post by Ede Wolf
Hi,
I am wondering, wether there is a way to create click tracks. Audacity
is quite limited, as it only creates quarter note clicks, while the
upper tempo setting is limited, so f.e. you cannot create 16th for
120BPM by means of scaling up the BPM.
Also, there are no triple notes, swing eighth or syncopated options
available, though I am afraid, those will be rather seldom, if availble
at all.
Are there any alternatives, that are at least a little more flexible
than audacity?
I am not talking about recording a plugin, like a softsynth, which is
liable to the internal (midi) clock oscillation, but generating an audio
track with really accurate clicks
Have you tried Hydrogen?

Lorenzo
Brett McCoy
2014-11-18 20:23:18 UTC
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Post by Lorenzo Sutton
Post by Ede Wolf
Hi,
I am wondering, wether there is a way to create click tracks. Audacity
is quite limited, as it only creates quarter note clicks, while the
upper tempo setting is limited, so f.e. you cannot create 16th for
120BPM by means of scaling up the BPM.
Also, there are no triple notes, swing eighth or syncopated options
available, though I am afraid, those will be rather seldom, if availble
at all.
Are there any alternatives, that are at least a little more flexible
than audacity?
I am not talking about recording a plugin, like a softsynth, which is
liable to the internal (midi) clock oscillation, but generating an audio
track with really accurate clicks
Have you tried Hydrogen?
You can record the metronome click in Ardour also. I used this once for a
vocalist who was recording in a remote studio to pre-recorded material and
needed a click to stay on tempo.
--
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it
would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
Joe Hartley
2014-11-18 20:33:28 UTC
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:23:18 -0500
Post by Brett McCoy
You can record the metronome click in Ardour also. I used this once for a
vocalist who was recording in a remote studio to pre-recorded material and
needed a click to stay on tempo.
If a click was used anywhere in a session, I'll print an audio track with it
so that when I do a stem export, there's no question about what the tempo
should be. As Brett said, it's very handy if more recording is to be done
elsewhere.
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F. Silvain
2014-11-18 20:29:48 UTC
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Hi,
I am wondering, wether there is a way to create click tracks. Audacity is
quite limited, as it only creates quarter note clicks, while the upper tempo
setting is limited, so f.e. you cannot create 16th for 120BPM by means of
scaling up the BPM.
klick is a stand alone JACK client, which also sets the JACK tempo, VERY accurately from the audio clock/crystal. It also offers emphasized beats.
There are LADSPA plugins, e.g. the Clicktrack from Tim Goetze's CAPS suite. You can also combine oscillator plugins (sine or noise for sound and pulse for the timed gating).
There's a simple JACK metronome coming with the JACK server, never tried it though.
If you need anything really specific you can generate it with the synthesis language of your choice. Many of those offer time resolution in seconds or beats (csound, SuperCollider...).
Also, there are no triple notes, swing eighth or syncopated options
available, though I am afraid, those will be rather seldom, if availble at
all.
Are there any alternatives, that are at least a little more flexible than
audacity?
I am not talking about recording a plugin, like a softsynth, which is liable
to the internal (midi) clock oscillation, but generating an audio track with
really accurate clicks
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Ede Wolf
2014-11-18 21:22:15 UTC
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Thanks for all replies, I did not know about klick, I'll try to get that
running, sounds promising. And maybe investigate into clicktrack.

Hydrogen is, I would guess, liable to the instability of the internal
clock, and more a realtime recording than a (fast) creation, but latter
would not be a real hinderance.

SuperCollider seems a bit to advanced in usage for me, but I now have
something to start with

Thanks!
Post by F. Silvain
Post by Ede Wolf
Hi,
I am wondering, wether there is a way to create click tracks. Audacity
is quite limited, as it only creates quarter note clicks, while the
upper tempo setting is limited, so f.e. you cannot create 16th for
120BPM by means of scaling up the BPM.
klick is a stand alone JACK client, which also sets the JACK tempo, VERY
accurately from the audio clock/crystal. It also offers emphasized beats.
There are LADSPA plugins, e.g. the Clicktrack from Tim Goetze's CAPS
suite. You can also combine oscillator plugins (sine or noise for sound
and pulse for the timed gating).
There's a simple JACK metronome coming with the JACK server, never tried it though.
If you need anything really specific you can generate it with the
synthesis language of your choice. Many of those offer time resolution
in seconds or beats (csound, SuperCollider...).
Post by Ede Wolf
Also, there are no triple notes, swing eighth or syncopated options
available, though I am afraid, those will be rather seldom, if
availble at all.
Are there any alternatives, that are at least a little more flexible
than audacity?
I am not talking about recording a plugin, like a softsynth, which is
liable to the internal (midi) clock oscillation, but generating an
audio track with really accurate clicks
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Brett McCoy
2014-11-18 21:55:49 UTC
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Post by Ede Wolf
Thanks for all replies, I did not know about klick, I'll try to get that
running, sounds promising. And maybe investigate into clicktrack.
Hydrogen is, I would guess, liable to the instability of the internal
clock, and more a realtime recording than a (fast) creation, but latter
would not be a real hinderance.
SuperCollider seems a bit to advanced in usage for me, but I now have
something to start with
I think any solution you come up with is going to be dependent on some kind
of clock to generate the correct tempo and meter.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it
would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
Ede Wolf
2014-11-19 07:03:18 UTC
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Well, I suppose, or rather I hope, that a precalculated or generated (as
in opposite to live recorded) audio track will be rather perfectly in
time. And from my limited experience audio playback is more stable than
midi.
Post by Ede Wolf
Thanks for all replies, I did not know about klick, I'll try to get
that running, sounds promising. And maybe investigate into clicktrack.
Hydrogen is, I would guess, liable to the instability of the
internal clock, and more a realtime recording than a (fast)
creation, but latter would not be a real hinderance.
SuperCollider seems a bit to advanced in usage for me, but I now
have something to start with
I think any solution you come up with is going to be dependent on some
kind of clock to generate the correct tempo and meter.
--
Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it
would overturn the world."
-- Jelaleddin Rumi
Ken Restivo
2014-11-19 17:25:14 UTC
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klick was my mainstay for years. It has some neat features too.

-ken
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Post by Ede Wolf
Thanks for all replies, I did not know about klick, I'll try to get
that running, sounds promising. And maybe investigate into
clicktrack.
Hydrogen is, I would guess, liable to the instability of the
internal clock, and more a realtime recording than a (fast)
creation, but latter would not be a real hinderance.
SuperCollider seems a bit to advanced in usage for me, but I now
have something to start with
Thanks!
Post by F. Silvain
Post by Ede Wolf
Hi,
I am wondering, wether there is a way to create click tracks. Audacity
is quite limited, as it only creates quarter note clicks, while the
upper tempo setting is limited, so f.e. you cannot create 16th for
120BPM by means of scaling up the BPM.
klick is a stand alone JACK client, which also sets the JACK tempo, VERY
accurately from the audio clock/crystal. It also offers emphasized beats.
There are LADSPA plugins, e.g. the Clicktrack from Tim Goetze's CAPS
suite. You can also combine oscillator plugins (sine or noise for sound
and pulse for the timed gating).
There's a simple JACK metronome coming with the JACK server, never tried it though.
If you need anything really specific you can generate it with the
synthesis language of your choice. Many of those offer time resolution
in seconds or beats (csound, SuperCollider...).
Post by Ede Wolf
Also, there are no triple notes, swing eighth or syncopated options
available, though I am afraid, those will be rather seldom, if
availble at all.
Are there any alternatives, that are at least a little more flexible
than audacity?
I am not talking about recording a plugin, like a softsynth, which is
liable to the internal (midi) clock oscillation, but generating an
audio track with really accurate clicks
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Grekim Jennings
2014-11-19 12:44:37 UTC
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/ On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Ede Wolf <listac at nebelschwaden.de <http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user>
/>/ <mailto:listac at nebelschwaden.de <http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user>>> wrote:
/>/
/>/ Thanks for all replies, I did not know about klick, I'll try to get
/>/ that running, sounds promising. And maybe investigate into clicktrack.
/>/
/>/ Hydrogen is, I would guess, liable to the instability of the
/>/ internal clock, and more a realtime recording than a (fast)
/>/ creation, but latter would not be a real hinderance.
/>/
/>/ SuperCollider seems a bit to advanced in usage for me, but I now
/>/ have something to start with
/>/
/>/
/>/ I think any solution you come up with is going to be dependent on some
/>/ kind of clock to generate the correct tempo and meter.
/>/
/>/ --
/>/ Brett W. McCoy --http://www.brettwmccoy.com
/>/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
/>/ "In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it
/>/ would overturn the world."
/>/ -- Jelaleddin Rumi


/I have written a click track generator, "Metronome", that outputs a wave file. You can adjust the sound of the click and program tempo changes through a text file.
There are no options for swing type feels, but any meter is supported. It is command line only and not open source yet.
A word of caution, if importing into Ardour be sure to change the output name to something besides click.wav.
Info: http://www.acousticrefuge.com/mixer4_all/metronome_info.txt
Download: http://www.acousticrefuge.com/mixer4_all/mixer4_download.htm
Grekim/
/
Bob van der Poel
2014-11-19 17:16:32 UTC
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My program, MMA, can do this quite easily. It's GPL so you can change it,
etc. Generate a MIDI file and convert to whatever format suits. Quick and
easy: http://mellowood.ca/mma/index.html
* On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Ede Wolf <listac at nebelschwaden.de <http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user>
*>>* Thanks for all replies, I did not know about klick, I'll try to get
*>* that running, sounds promising. And maybe investigate into clicktrack.
*>>* Hydrogen is, I would guess, liable to the instability of the
*>* internal clock, and more a realtime recording than a (fast)
*>* creation, but latter would not be a real hinderance.
*>>* SuperCollider seems a bit to advanced in usage for me, but I now
*>* have something to start with
*>>>* I think any solution you come up with is going to be dependent on some
*>* kind of clock to generate the correct tempo and meter.
*>>* --
*>* Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com <http://www.brettwmccoy.com>
*>* ------------------------------------------------------------------------
*>* "In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it
*>* would overturn the world."
*>* -- Jelaleddin Rumi
*I have written a click track generator, "Metronome", that outputs a wave file. You can adjust the sound of the click and program tempo changes through a text file.
There are no options for swing type feels, but any meter is supported. It is command line only and not open source yet.
A word of caution, if importing into Ardour be sure to change the output name to something besides click.wav.
Info: http://www.acousticrefuge.com/mixer4_all/metronome_info.txt
Download: http://www.acousticrefuge.com/mixer4_all/mixer4_download.htm
Grekim
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