[linux-audio-user] Re: linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26

[Kevin Sookocheff]

The crashing with the notes of the guitar at the end?  Or the rolling
repeat just before it?

The rolling repeat. This is a very minor criticism though (not really a
criticism even, just something to try and see how it sounds). I really like
the song though.

Kevin

[Kevin Sookocheff]

Hello,

Recently there has been news that Debian is lacking in security updates
(http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/05/217225.shtml?tid=90). I've been
pondering installing DeMudi for a while but want to know what people think of
these security problems. I don't particularly like red-hat so keep that in
mind. Does anyone use Mandrake for pro-audio. It's what I'm most familiar
with but I don't want to have a mountain of configuration problems to get
real-time performance. What about Ubuntu with the DeMudi packages? Is this
relatively easy to setup?

Thanks for any advice,
Kevin

[anahata]

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
Hello,
Recently there has been news that Debian is lacking in security updates
(http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/05/217225.shtml?tid=90). I've been
pondering installing DeMudi for a while but want to know what people think of
these security problems.

A lot of them are very trivial. Especially for a computer that's running
audio applications, not providing services to the internet and not being
logged into by 500 users distributed all over the office or campus...

Subscribe to the Debian security mailing list for the gory and tedious
details.

I'm on Debian behind the firewalling provided by a cheap ADSL router. I
even allow myself to log in via ssh from work. I'm not worried.
There is a school of thought that says an audio machine shouldn't be
connected to a network at all (minimize services for best latency and
CPU availability for audio, is the logic)

[Esben Stien]

Post by anahata
There is a school of thought that says an audio machine shouldn't be
connected to a network at all (minimize services for best latency
and CPU availability for audio, is the logic)

Rubbish;). If your prioritized processes are interrupted by other
processes, then there is something wrong with the system.

[Lee Revell]

Post by Esben Stien

Post by anahata
There is a school of thought that says an audio machine shouldn't be
connected to a network at all (minimize services for best latency
and CPU availability for audio, is the logic)

Rubbish;). If your prioritized processes are interrupted by other
processes, then there is something wrong with the system.

Agreed, that "school of thought" is based on crappy OS'es like Windows.

Most of the "system tuning" you read about on Windows and Mac audio
sites does not apply to a modern Linux system.

Lee

[anahata]

Post by Lee Revell

Post by Esben Stien
Rubbish;). If your prioritized processes are interrupted by other
processes, then there is something wrong with the system.

Agreed, that "school of thought" is based on crappy OS'es like Windows.

I know. The idea of keeping your PC off the LAN and shutting down
unnecessary processes was suggested on this list a while ago. I didn't
believe the argument at the time, for the same reasons stated above :-)

[tim hall]

Post by Lee Revell

Post by Esben Stien

Post by anahata
There is a school of thought that says an audio machine shouldn't be
connected to a network at all (minimize services for best latency
and CPU availability for audio, is the logic)

Rubbish;). If your prioritized processes are interrupted by other
processes, then there is something wrong with the system.

Agreed, that "school of thought" is based on crappy OS'es like Windows.
Most of the "system tuning" you read about on Windows and Mac audio
sites does not apply to a modern Linux system.

If you're running low-end recycled hardware, like I do, minimising services
helps give you a bit more operational headroom. I don't know about the
theory, this is from practical experience - it only really makes a noticeable
difference when I'm running Rosegarden or JAMin. Otherwise I use this machine
for everything, with a permanent network connection. Most of the system
tuning that has been suggested is done during A/DeMuDi installation anyway.

cheers,

tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk

[robin]

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
Hello,
Recently there has been news that Debian is lacking in security updates
(http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/05/217225.shtml?tid=90). I've been
pondering installing DeMudi for a while but want to know what people think of
these security problems. I don't particularly like red-hat so keep that in
mind. Does anyone use Mandrake for pro-audio. It's what I'm most familiar
with but I don't want to have a mountain of configuration problems to get
real-time performance. What about Ubuntu with the DeMudi packages? Is this
relatively easy to setup?
Thanks for any advice,
Kevin

Hi
For info:

Part of Debian email sent out 08/07/05

quote>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
Debian Security Support in Place ***@debian.org
July 8th, 2005 http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050708
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Debian Security Support in Place

The Debian project confirms that the security infrastructure for both
the current release Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (alias sarge) and the former
release 3.0 (alias woody) is working again. The security team is now
able to provide updates on a regular basis again.

end quote>>>

Plus Demudi-1.2.1 released today
Available at http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/InstallCdRom with .iso and
instructions

FAQ http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq

Packages/version http://demudi.agnula.org/images/1.2.1/README.PACKAGES

[Steve D]

Post by robin
Plus Demudi-1.2.1 released today
Available at http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/InstallCdRom with .iso and
instructions

--- --- ---

Oh no! Now the server is going to be jam packed with anxious people
downloading DeMuDi 1.2.1. My own download just slowed to a crawl,
jumping from an estimated 3 hours to more than 23.

Are there any mirror sites yet? ;-)

-sd

[nigel henry]

Thanks for the info Robin. There was only one security URL for stable (Woody)
before, which I presume is now allocated to stable (Sarge) now. Are there now
2 different URL's for Sarge and Woody security updates. I have 2 instances of
Debian. One is stable (Sarge), the other is getting upgrades from the testing
repo, going into Etch territory. Which is the correct URL to put into
/etc/apt/sources.list to get security updates for Sarge (stable). Nigel.

Post by robin

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
Hello,
Recently there has been news that Debian is lacking in security updates
(http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/05/217225.shtml?tid=90). I've
been pondering installing DeMudi for a while but want to know what people
think of these security problems. I don't particularly like red-hat so
keep that in mind. Does anyone use Mandrake for pro-audio. It's what
I'm most familiar with but I don't want to have a mountain of
configuration problems to get real-time performance. What about Ubuntu
with the DeMudi packages? Is this relatively easy to setup?
Thanks for any advice,
Kevin

Hi
Part of Debian email sent out 08/07/05
quote>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
July 8th, 2005 http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050708
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Debian Security Support in Place
The Debian project confirms that the security infrastructure for both
the current release Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (alias sarge) and the former
release 3.0 (alias woody) is working again. The security team is now
able to provide updates on a regular basis again.
end quote>>>
Plus Demudi-1.2.1 released today
Available at http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/InstallCdRom with .iso and
instructions
FAQ http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq
Packages/version http://demudi.agnula.org/images/1.2.1/README.PACKAGES

[robin]

Post by nigel henry
Thanks for the info Robin. There was only one security URL for stable (Woody)
before, which I presume is now allocated to stable (Sarge) now. Are there now
2 different URL's for Sarge and Woody security updates. I have 2 instances of
Debian. One is stable (Sarge), the other is getting upgrades from the testing
repo, going into Etch territory. Which is the correct URL to put into
/etc/apt/sources.list to get security updates for Sarge (stable). Nigel.

Post by robin

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
Hello,
Recently there has been news that Debian is lacking in security updates
(http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/05/217225.shtml?tid=90). I've
been pondering installing DeMudi for a while but want to know what people
think of these security problems. I don't particularly like red-hat so
keep that in mind. Does anyone use Mandrake for pro-audio. It's what
I'm most familiar with but I don't want to have a mountain of
configuration problems to get real-time performance. What about Ubuntu
with the DeMudi packages? Is this relatively easy to setup?
Thanks for any advice,
Kevin

Hi
Part of Debian email sent out 08/07/05
quote>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
July 8th, 2005 http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050708
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Debian Security Support in Place
The Debian project confirms that the security infrastructure for both
the current release Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (alias sarge) and the former
release 3.0 (alias woody) is working again. The security team is now
able to provide updates on a regular basis again.
end quote>>>
Plus Demudi-1.2.1 released today
Available at http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/InstallCdRom with .iso and
instructions
FAQ http://demudi.agnula.org/wiki/DocumentsFaq
Packages/version http://demudi.agnula.org/images/1.2.1/README.PACKAGES

You would need to check but I think woody is oldstable.
robin

[Chris Bannister]

Post by nigel henry
Thanks for the info Robin. There was only one security URL for stable (Woody)
before, which I presume is now allocated to stable (Sarge) now. Are there now
2 different URL's for Sarge and Woody security updates. I have 2 instances of
Debian. One is stable (Sarge), the other is getting upgrades from the testing
repo, going into Etch territory. Which is the correct URL to put into
/etc/apt/sources.list to get security updates for Sarge (stable). Nigel.

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

[tim hall]

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
Recently there has been news that Debian is lacking in security updates
(http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/05/217225.shtml?tid=90).  

Fixed four days ago AFAIU.

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
I've been
pondering installing DeMudi for a while but want to know what people think
of these security problems.  

Insignificant.

Post by Kevin Sookocheff
I don't particularly like red-hat so keep that
in mind.  Does anyone use Mandrake for pro-audio.  It's what I'm most
familiar with but I don't want to have a mountain of configuration problems
to get real-time performance.  What about Ubuntu with the DeMudi packages?
 Is this relatively easy to setup?

Ubuntu/DeMuDi can work, but the easiest approach is simply to install
A/DeMuDi-1.2.1, which has just been released this week. If you don't want to
deal with config problems this is almost certainly the way to go.

cheers,

tim hall
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk